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V1.....UH_OH
November 9, 2000, 07:22 PM
Does anyone else have any input to this?
The first case that I have heard of was the
Airbus A320 pilot who was tried on manslaughter charges for the airshow crash a while ago. Between then...and now this latest with the Singapore Airlines pilots! What is this world coming to? I am one to look at things from different perspectives, but if this holds, then I may see it go under
negliegence. If this is the case should all others be held to the same accountability?
Should doctors be tried as criminals for not being able to save some idiot who overdosed himself? Should the bus/truck driver be put in jail for crashing his truck in bad weather and people dying in that crash?
What's next? If the crewmembers die, then do you go after their family? As a pilot, who realizes that there is NEVER a guarantee that you will always come back down 100% of the time without something going wrong up there, I still fly and maintain the most professional standards that any one of us can, as anyone of you who also fly for a living does! This whole thing saddens me, and just makes me shake my head in disgust.
Now I know there is a difference in knowingly taking an unairworthy plane up, then something happening as a result of that item being inop, but in an accident such as this? What do we do as crewmembers? If a FA is serving coffee and a pocket of turbulence
makes her spill hot coffee on a PAX, does
that mean she is liable to answer for what ever injuries happen?.......... I just figured that I would post this topic and see what other people out there had to say in reference to this. For God's sake I hope this doesn't come to the point where
every time we walk down the terminal we feel like defendants looking at potential plaintiffs, for possible future mishapes not of our INTENTIONAL,WILLING AND CONSCIOUS nature!!!!

Kimberley
November 10, 2000, 04:30 AM
Now that's what I call 'takin' the crowd to church'!
http://www.crewstart.com/ubb/images/icons/grin.gif Amen, V1...Uh Oh!

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Un diva très doué.

suthernbelle
November 12, 2000, 03:24 AM
V1...Why in the world does that surprise you? As distasteful as it is, we now live in such a litigious society.. Everybody is out for a buck. Look, McDonald's is getting sued for serving a hot cup of coffee which spilled on some Moron Lady's lap. And the Amazing Idiot Boy in FL who cut himself up trying to break into a small business is suing or has sued the owner because of the razor wire that was installed to stop idiots such as himself.

As a flight attendant, I fully expect to get sued or or at the least"written up" for spilling a cup of coffee during some clear air turbulence. And I will tell you what I am surprised about. I am surprised that someone has not sued the flight attendants and/or the airline because they fell going to the lav during turbulence during which the captain asked them to remain in their seats.

People refuse to take responsibility for themselves. It is always someone else's fault.

Regards,
S'Belle

[This message has been edited by suthernbelle (edited November 12, 2000).]

traveler
November 12, 2000, 12:11 PM
To those not living in the USA this is still surprising.

mart148
February 11, 2001, 06:38 PM
Howdy there!

I´ve been reading your comments on the current situation and I feel the same way. I have lived in the USA for 4 years and am now residing with my american wife in The Netherlands. I used to be able to say I´m glad stuff like that does´n happen here (in Holland) but lately the winds are starting to blow from the USA direction. It´s scary to say the least. Who was it a few years back during some kind of election who was striving for ethics and values..... maybe he had a point?

PS: No offense suthernbelle, but eh, you sound like you´re a mom?

Jenny@Nw
February 11, 2001, 11:30 PM
Moron lady's lap at Mc Donalds?
You know, She had that CUP between her legs as she drove (Duh dummy) and that's why it caused extensive damage to her shrivled up thingie.
Isn't this annoying how everyone is so sue happy?
If I spill cranberry juice during turbulence can you sue god?
GEEZ

mart148
February 14, 2001, 06:55 AM
Right on, Jen. You said it!

V1.....UH_OH
February 15, 2001, 10:59 PM
I am glad that other people out there feel the same way that I do on this rather pathetic turn of events. In the same light, what makes this even more absurd is all the air rage going on nowadays!
Yeah, they'll sue us and put us behind bars, but people that divert an airliner and make it land because of their behavior get off easier! Damn, if they wanna go there, then hell we might just as well join in on the ambulance chaser wagon. I might just feel emotionally and spiritually damaged for life, due to the fact that I had to put the plane down in the middle of nowhere because
some guy got cut off from the alcohol before he passed out and felt like taking it out on the pax and fa! That could be worth a couple of million, huh??
Anyways, take care all and keep on smiling!
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GalleyWench
March 11, 2001, 02:40 PM
For those that think that the US is a litigious nation please note that the above examples of pilots being sued are NOT in the US. The airshow pilot was in France. There was a BA pilot charged with reckless endangerment for flying too close to a hotel roof near LHR in the 80s. He was put out to pasture by his company, and although I beleive vindicated he committed suicide within a year.