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Capt_Night_Freight
February 25, 2001, 11:16 PM
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This was taken from the BALPA Log magazine.......Quote....
USE OF De-ICING BOOTS IN FLIGHT
There has been considerable work done since the Roselawn accident in 1994 to understand better the nature of in flight icing. Whilst further efforts continues to be made in accord with the joint US Department of Transportation and the FAA in flight icing plan this work is not yet complete . However reports continue to occur of in flight icing incidents that suggest that crews of turbo prop aircraft might not be aware of the dangers of allowing even small Ice deposits to build up in flight. It now appears to be becoming generally accepted that the practice of not activating the boots untill a good measure of ice has built up is discredited and furthermore has not been valid for very many years. The unfound myth of Ice-Bridging should not be allowed to inhibit crews of turboprop aircraft and other aircraft with boots from ensuring that their ice protection systems are activated as soon as any ice deposits are observered on their aircraft in flight.The tecnical committee dose not intend that this advice should replace conflicting instructions in aircraft or operator manuals, although representations will be made to the CAA to promote the necessary changes in training, procedures and documentation........ un quote
So when do you switch the boots on ?
I was told that if you wait for a loss of airsped of 10 kts the boots might work if you wait for a loss of airspeed of 15 kts they will probabley work but if you wait for a loss of 20 kts they will definitley work. I have always applied this method and have never had problems with ice and whats more have never suffered from premature inflation.
I would be interested to hear other views on boot operations particually with reference to early selection.



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Saab-driver
March 6, 2001, 12:42 PM
Hey there,

I fly for Mesaba airlines which has one of the largest saab340 fleets in the world. Due to the studies that you were mentioning our company had a change of procedures. The new procedure states that when ice starts accumulating on the aircraft we must operate the boots in a continues mode; instead of inflating them when the crew saw fit. In the continuous mode the boots get inflated every 3 minutes. I personally do not believe in the continuos mode. The boots just does not give a good break unless there is sufficient ice. And another thing I take into consideration is what kind of ice it is. I have found that clear ice breaks off a lot easier than Rime or mixed.

Anyways to answer your question, The company believes in constantly breaking the ice on, while I (and many other Captains) still believe in the wait before you break method.

Saab-driver :wish I had heated wings