United in Europe

[robin]

Hi guys,
does anyone of you know if United hires F/As for European bases?
I have searched their site but found nothing...
Please PLEASE help!

[Homer]

Robin,

UAL are currently recruiting for cabin crew,
however interviews are conducted in Chicago at your expense and the training course in unpaid. You will then have to work at a base that they place you at for about 6 months before you can transfer to a european base.

[robin]

Homer,
thank you very much for the information.
I wonder if I would be allowed to work in the USA for 6 months being European. In the website UA requires a working permit in the US that I don't have. I tried to write an e-mail many times but they never answered. I am ready to go to Chicago if it is some use, but I would like to make sure to have all the requirements first. Do you by chance know how to get in touch, or what the procedure is?
Thanks very much Homer,
Robin

[This message has been edited by robin (edited November 19, 2000).]

[flyboydc]

Unless you have a way to get a work visa for the U.S., you'll have to wait until they start hiring for the European bases (LHR, CDG, FRA), which they do periodically. I think the last time they hired for those bases was in 1997, so it's quite infrequent. You'll just have to keep your eyes and ears open. Or marry an American. http://www.crewstart.com/ubb/images/icons/tongue.gif

[robin]

Thank you flybodyc,
I think I'll wait for the European recruitment! Unless someone proposes...? http://www.crewstart.com/ubb/images/icons/grin.gif

[Homer]

I was just going to say that.
Keep an I on the website www.ual.com (http://www.ual.com) under 'employment' where they post vacancies.

[robin]

Thanks Homer,
I already checked it but does not explain if a non-US citizen can apply.
I really appreciate your help!
I'll let you know if anything happens!
(or if I get a marriage proposal! http://www.crewstart.com/ubb/images/icons/grin.gif)

[Tim206]

Unfortunately I have to tell you the bad news that as a European citizen we can defintely *NOT* apply for f/a positions in the USA. Unless you have a green card.

I work for UA at LHR at the moment on the ground and have been advised that currently they are not looking to recruit European based crew for at least 1 year..... obviously unless circumstances taken a sudden change.

The best way is not to use the website as for European recruitment it doesn't tell you anything much at all. The best way is to send your CV to the People Services Division at LHR (or whichever European base is best for you), and they will retain it on file until recruitment plans start up again.

I have discovered that the best place to find vacancies within United in London, is to look in the free newspaper "Skyport". Most of our vacancies are advertised in there.

It's a real shame it's not easier, but many of the ground crew have tried to find ways around this. Only a few have succeded to get in, which is normally only when we recruit properly over here.

Good luck anyway and if I hear anyhting I will let you know.

[robin]

Thank you very much for the detailed information Tim. I'll try the way you suggest and send a CV straight to the LHR UA base. Tey will start recruiting again one day or the other!
Do you know where the newspaper Skyport can be found, or have you any details how to get it?
Thanks again for your help http://www.crewstart.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

[Homer]

Tim206

Hi,
Veering off the subject slightly, what are United like to work for at LHR on check-in?
How long would it take to get a full-time position. (As the job would be part-time to start.) If I could get a green card, which I may be able to, is there any way of applying to be a pilot from here? As i am doing my PPL at the moment. Want to go commercial!
Thanks in advance for the info, (Gossip).

PS. Just saw your post 'UK Recruitment' I was at British Midland for a while, I may be able to help. I work in T3 LHR now so maybe we could meet up!


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[robin]

Thanks a lot again Tim, you are an angel.
And by the way, I didn't think you could be a sad git! A very nice person would be more appropriated.
Bye and thanks!

Robin

[Tim206]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana ">quote:<HR>Originally posted by robin:
Thank you very much for the detailed information Tim. I'll try the way you suggest and send a CV straight to the LHR UA base. Tey will start recruiting again one day or the other!
Do you know where the newspaper Skyport can be found, or have you any details how to get it?
Thanks again for your help http://www.crewstart.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Just to help you out if you want to contact our LHR base the address is:
People Services Dept
United Airlines
United House
Southern Perimeter Road
Heathrow Airport
Hounslow
Middlesex

If you send your CV to them they can forward it our Inflight Dept.

With regards to Skyport you can pick it up free at LHR every Friday, or you can subscribe to it. If you visit www.skyportuk.co.uk (http://www.skyportuk.co.uk) it should tell you how to go about it (and before you say it, no I'm not a sad git that just knows the website address - it's in the paper itself.....)

Good Luck, and if you need any more help let me know.

[Tim206]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana ">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Homer:
Tim206

Hi,
Veering off the subject slightly, what are United like to work for at LHR on check-in?
How long would it take to get a full-time position. (As the job would be part-time to start.) If I could get a green card, which I may be able to, is there any way of applying to be a pilot from here? As i am doing my PPL at the moment. Want to go commercial!
Thanks in advance for the info, (Gossip).

PS. Just saw your post 'UK Recruitment' I was at British Midland for a while, I may be able to help. I work in T3 LHR now so maybe we could meet up!


[This message has been edited by Homer (edited November 22, 2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi,
Well United I think is pretty good to work for on check-in. You do start part-time, however within 6 mths to 1 year you can normally get full time. In the meantime however there is usually quite a bit of overtime available. Especially due to the fact that we handle quite a few airlines (NZ, BW, JM, EK) which makes our operation almost 24hrs a day. So when you get trained on OALs you have a lot of variety and options to work.

With regards to becoming a pilot in the USA. As far as I am aware if you have green card you can apply from here, however the interviews will more than likely be in the USA. However if you already work for UA on the ground here at LHR I think they will normally help to get you other there for the interviews.
If you can get a green card soon, it is a good time to apply as we are getting pretty desperate for staff in the states according to my colleagues out there.

With regards to meeting up, any help with recruitment would be appreciated. I am away for a week or two now, but will have to organise when I get back. You said you work in T3 now - what do you do? which company/airline?
(That's the other advantage with United, the travel perks are very good!!!)

Any other questions let me know and I will try to assist you.

[FA_wannabie]

Tim!!!
Can you tell me the qualifications for being a Check-in person i.e how heavy you have to be, school grades etc, etc...

[Buzzcut@JFK]

Unless UAL specifically hires for our bases in Europe (FRA,CDG,LHR) the process could be quite difficult for those who are not US citizens. If you didn't want to wait for the company to hire abroad you would have to become a resident alien in the US and secure a green card before you could even be given a training date, provided that you pass the first and second interviews. After training you could be sent to any one of UAL's domestic bases and would have to wait until your probationary period has ended (six months) before any request you make for a transfer can be considered. This means your request to transfer to a base in Europe would be at the bottom of the list and could take, in some cases, years. I hope this information helps. And FYI: Things around here aren't the best, to say the least, at the moment.

[flyboydc]

I was just looking through the UAL website, and there is a section on f/a positions in international domeciles.

Go to united.com, click on 'Employment' on the right side. On the employment page, on the right, click on 'Flight Attendant employment.' On the next page, click on 'Opportunities outside the United Sates.'

When positions become available, they will post the information (so they say) on this site. They request that you do not send CV's.

Good luck.

[Tim206]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana ">quote:<HR>Originally posted by FA wannabie:
Tim!!!
Can you tell me the qualifications for being a Check-in person i.e how heavy you have to be, school grades etc, etc...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay,

The requirements for ground crew aren't that hard for LHR. However saying that we are a very hard airline to break into (even on the ground) in London. Although we take quite a few people on, we interview one hell of a lot more.

As far as I am aware at the moment the qualifications are -
* Second language ability considered helpful
* Smart appearance
* Friendly
* Previous airline experience an advantage
* Computer knowledge
* Previous customer contact experience

It also helps if you have a first aid qualification.

As far as I am aware they are not too worried about height/weight for ground crew and I don't think the education grades are too much of a worry either (as long as you are not the complete village idiot!!!).

But don't get me wrong although it sounds very vague. The recruitment team take on a wide mix of people, however it is very hard to get in. I know several people who are very qualified and skilled, and still haven't met the grade for interview.

Hope it helps.
Tim

If there is anything more specific you want to know let me know and I will try to help you out.

[This message has been edited by Tim206 (edited December 03, 2000).]

[Tim206]

Just to let you all know I have just heard that we are suppose to be taking on cabin crew for our London base in 2002 - so not too far away!!!!

With regards to ground crew we are suppose to be taking lots on in 2001.

Hope this helps you guys out!!!

[Belg1972]

Hi all Happy new Year first of all,

I was just looking around here... and I wondered if there were any vacancies or addresses for flight attendants in ORY, FRA. Is there a central address to write for CVs?

yours,

belgje

[GalleyHag]

Here's another problem that you all haven't spoken about:

At my airline (NWA), FAs on the transfer list HAVE to be taken in to the base before new-hires. So, if there are 50 people on the transfer list, and the company needs 40 FAs in a particular base, the transfer list is going to get them first. Then the new-hires MIGHT get transferred there out of training.

The UA Paris base opened within the last year, transfers went first. No class was sent there.

Just to let you know.

Kissies!