MID FLEET

[kfly747]

I have heard through the rumour grapevine that some recently interviewed cabin crew have been offered the jobs, and have been informed that they will be operating a 'Mid-fleet' operation including the USA.
Any truth in this???

[BeACrewmember]

I've not heard about the recently interviewed crew being told that, however, there are strong rumours going around to that effect - union source!
I'm sure it would be very welcome as long as we had the chance to choose whether we could be rostered for long flights, shortflights or indeed both,and then leave it up to scheduling to do its misterious wonders.

[brit_air_guy]

well it would be a suprise if they did re-introduce a mid fleet, when I left mid fleet over four years ago to go to LGW I was told that it was too costly to run and wasn,t productive which is strange as at the time we could operate 747,767,777 & 757 !!!!
There was a rumour that EOG at LGW would be operating something like this in a couple of years time with all the changes at LGW happening but I very much doubt the unions would agree to this but then again look at AML !

[AirBag]

I'm Eurofleet at the moment and I don't see how they could be offering people 767 licences when they are taking people off the 767 who are flying already. Imagine the stink!! However on a flight back from LIS a month or so ago we had a union rep on board and they're talking about DXB YUL CCS BOG CAI JED (yummy) among others. The problem is that they don't know who is going to operate the aircraft (ie Eurofleet or Worldwide) Eurofleet are 767 licenced already so that would be no problem. Worldwide are not, so recency would apparently be a problem for such a large fleet on such few aircraft. I don't even want to start writing about the agreements!! Imagine coming back from JFK in the morning and then having your 12 1/2 hours off then doing an SVO the next day -- Fab (not)

[kfly747]

AirBag,

What about LGW? they have crew operating 3 aircraft on worldwide. 777, 747 and 767.

The 767 routes from LGW are ABUJA, ALMATY, BALTIMORE, BERMUDA, CHARLOTTE, CARACAS, DAMMAN, ENTEBBE,THE GRAND CAYMAN - SHUTTLE FROM NASSAU,AND LILONGWE.

Threfore no problem training new crew for a new fleet.With the downsizing of LGW the crew wishing to be transferred will be utilised with another fleet, but which one?????? images/icons/shocked.gif

[mush]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana ">quote:<HR>Originally posted by kfly747:
AirBag,

What about LGW? they have crew operating 3 aircraft on worldwide. 777, 747 and 767.

The 767 routes from LGW are ABUJA, ALMATY, BALTIMORE, BERMUDA, CHARLOTTE, CARACAS, DAMMAN, ENTEBBE,THE GRAND CAYMAN - SHUTTLE FROM NASSAU,AND LILONGWE.

Threfore no problem training new crew for a new fleet.With the downsizing of LGW the crew wishing to be transferred will be utilised with another fleet, but which one?????? images/icons/shocked.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don t think BA will invent/introduce a new fleet...but perhaps some LHR/WW will be trained on the 767....just like Gatwick.nullnull[LIST][LIST] images/icons/wink.gif

[AirBag]

I see what you mean but LHR WW is a bigger fleet; so the relative time each crew member would spend flying on the 767 is less for a certain number of aircraft on a big fleet than for the same number of aircraft on a smaller fleet. Hence the company think it will be too difficult to keep the LHR WW crew licenced for it.
I'm not sure how willing they'd be to only licence somce crew on the 767 as they may have the same problem they have with Eurofleet....ie when calling crew off standby to operate a 757 trip they have to make sure they have enough crew left behind to operate any 737 trips.
The agreements that they would have to put in place would be difficult too. At the moment with the EF agreement that is in place we could operate a JFK back to back and then come back and then do an early morning flight the next day -- no problem as long as we have our 12 1/2 or 15 hours off? Yes big problem 'cos there's no way they'd get me slogging my guts out on an agreement like that. Unfortunately that's who they want to do it because the EF agreements are cheaper than the WW ones as we have less rest and can do more sectors and don't need MBT only our Scheme days off. Also we don't trigger back to back payments. images/icons/confused.gif

[speedwing]

Could I just say that if LHR EURO do get a sort of mid fleet that it will be on 767.
not the Airbus as I've heard (some crew do make me laugh)
if you look in the highlife mag you can see for your self that it can only fly 1200 miles it wolud not get to the u.s if it had 3 fuel tanks and the Pax on a long flight would not go that far on one
DVT and all that there is no room to walk round

[ 04-27-2001: Message edited by: speedwing ]

[AirBag]

B-Med operate A320s to the middle east with Club World and World Traveller config. Also A321 can go as far as a B757 by all accounts and they go over the Atlantic. They say (who ever *they* are) that LCA and ATH and perhaps SVO with light loads will be on Airbus. Imagine doing a CAT 3F service for 80 club from that piddling little galley at the front of an A320!! Ay Caramba images/icons/shocked.gif

[Carnage_Matey]

Very astute AirBag! My sources tell me that Larnaca and Moscow will indeed be Airbus routes in the near future. As for using HighLife to get your aircraft information, I suggest people find a more reliable source! Even the A319 can cross the Atlantic (rather further than the 1200 mile suggested range).

[AirBag]

How about CC News and BA news? Only the truth is told in there no? images/icons/confused.gif