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February 10, 2002, 07:32 AM
BA: A PROFILE
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1554000/1554140.stm
Only a few months ago it seemed that British Airways was heading for better times.
In May the airline reported a sharp rise in profits and revealed that it was making more money from each customer than it has done since it was privatised in 1987.
The new chief executive, Rod Eddington, was being congratulated for turning BA around after years in the wilderness with former boss Bob Ayling.
After coming on board in May 2000, Mr Eddington made it clear that he would stick with BA's new strategy of focusing on the highly profitable business segment.
The airline offered improved amenities, including sleeper seats, in an attempt to lure business travellers at the expense of economy class customers.

Back in the black
As 2000 ended the strategy seemed to be paying off.
BA moved back into the black after watching its profits plummet by more than 50% in 1999 - its worst year since 1982.
In June this year it completed its sale of Go, a no-frills airline, making a £75m profit from its initial investment three years ago.
But the recent news that the company will be cutting a total of 7,000 jobs has taken the shine off BA's embryonic recovery and brought back memories of darker days.
Mr Ayling's time at the helm from January 1996 to March 2000 brought with it BA's most turbulent period since privatisation in 1987.

Underperformance
During that period BA shares underperformed the market by 40% as Mr Ayling battled with low staff morale, rising fuel prices, the Asian economic crisis, competition from low-cost airlines - and, inevitably, falling profits.

Key dates
Aug 1919: first flight by BA's forerunner company
1935: a number of small UK air transport companies merge to form BA
July 1979: UK government announces its intention to sell shares in BA
Feb 1987: privatisation
Jan 1996: Bob Ayling becomes chief executive
March 2000: Mr Ayling is ousted
May 2000: Rod Eddington becomes chief executive
Mr Ayling tried to be innovative, even introducing funky tailfin designs for BA's aircraft based on Chinese calligraphy, Polish tower blocks, the Kalahari desert and Delft pottery.
The exercise, however, proved a public relations disaster. Even at the launch, Lady Margaret Thatcher draped her handkerchief over an offending model.
Mr Eddington has since announced a return to British livery, reintroducing the Union Flag on each tailfin.

Merger attempts

The unfortunate Mr Ayling, who was ousted in March 2000, was also made the scapegoat for a failed merger with American Airlines, which ran into regulatory problems.
The airline has since attempted to revive the merger, announcing early in August that it had sought US antitrust immunity for a new alliance.
This is the companies' second attempt at cementing their relationship in three years.
They both belong to the oneworld alliance, launched in February 1999. BA uses the alliance, which includes Cathay Pacific Airways, Qantas and four other airlines, to share marketing costs and airport facilities.

Problems in the industry
Despite the advantages of the alliance, BA has worked hard to pull off a more wide-ranging merger.

In September 2000, BA and Dutch carrier KLM ended four months of merger negotiations without agreement, saying they had been unable to resolve a number of issues.
BA's determination to continue to strengthen its ties with American Airlines is symptomatic of problems in the industry as a whole.
Analysts have long argued that airlines need to consolidate so that they can better manage industrywide problems such as over-capacity and rising fuel costs.

Cuts
The attacks on the US on 11 September have been the last straw for the beleaguered airline industry which is suffering from the economic slowdown and falling passenger numbers.
Like many of its rivals, BA says it has been forced to cut jobs, reduce its fleet and the number of scheduled flights.
But despite its problems, the airline is light years away from its roots and the pioneering days of civil aviation following World War I.
In August 1919, BA's forerunner company, Aircraft Transport and Travel launched the world's first daily international air service between London and Paris.
The initial flight carried one passenger and cargo that included newspapers, Devonshire cream and grouse.
Last year more than 48 million passengers travelled on 529,807 flights operated by BA.
But as long as the economic conditions remain tough, BA will struggle to maintain the profits that it was once accustomed to.

euroboy
February 10, 2002, 09:31 AM
jordi

OK OK we love YOU!! But please NO more reports!! WE HAVE GOT THE MESSAGE!!

GO is cool images/icons/cool.gif

Totally wonderful images/icons/shocked.gif

The paxs love you images/icons/smile.gif

...and I give up, just for an easy life I apply to GO! OK?

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AirBag
February 11, 2002, 06:16 AM
Would there be ANY chance of you posting something that you have actually written yourself?

All you ever torture us with are reports copied from elsewhere.

euroboy
February 11, 2002, 08:04 AM
jordi

During our 6 week training course we do kinda learn about BA. We also have regular up dates on the company, through various mediums including BA News, Cabin Crew News, Intranet, Bulletin Posters. On BA intranet there is a Press section where any items of news regarding BA, whether good or bad is logged, from most papers.
Also the news section on Crewstart gives us some details.

We all know BA isn`t in good shape, although not as bad as other airlines we are very much aware of what is happening.

Jordi here is some advice. Sometime soon, BA will be announcing the Size, Shape and Future of BA.
None of us know what is going to happen, but I feel you may just wind some people up if you keep reporting BA clipings!

Also, we have told by both Unions (Bassa & Cabin Crew 89) and Management not to believe all press articles, because it is speculation.

February 11, 2002, 10:55 AM
dear "friends" @ BA
I was just posting to see whether you knew about this and thought you might be interested.
if AirBag, has anything positive to say, in a nice tone, i suppose he/she might not after working for BA!, sorry had to let it out, please reply.
all of us at GO love you to!
jordi

AirBag
February 11, 2002, 02:31 PM
Oh honey bee I'm frightfully sorry!!

I thought I was making a (fairly) valid point.

Trouble is I'm not a great computer whizz and I don't know how to change the font I'm typing in so I can't change the tone of my messages

........sorry

images/icons/tongue.gif


Oh and by the way, the answer to the he/she conundrum that had you so vexed - I am a he

Besos Cariño -mwaa- -mwaa-

[ 02-11-2002: Message edited by: AirBag ]</p>

Katie
February 11, 2002, 03:48 PM
a bit of friendly banter, that's what I say.

Fair cop.

euroboy
February 11, 2002, 04:23 PM
jordi

I know you don`t mean any harm, and you are just trying to inform us.
I think AirBag (we are no longer vexed) was right in saying is their nothing you don`t post which not copied from another source. It would be a lot nicer and better hearing your views not what some journalist has written. Which is either old news, old news with a different slant on it, made up, or otherwise.
BA is always in the news for something..its a high profile company.

And please, please NO more paxs reports from CarSurvey. They could have been written by anybody. There are loads of these type of things about on the net. There is even one knocking about saying they got off with a BA steward and we are the hottest stewards about... images/icons/grin.gif

On that note...I`m off to be HOT! images/icons/cool.gif

February 12, 2002, 12:37 PM
dear my lovely friends at BA
i must apologise to our sarcastic friend at BA airBag.
euroBoy, are u on long or short haul 'planes?
you know you seem friendly, i know it was a joke, but if BA, as it is, is shedding more jobs, please come to us at GO. I know we're hiring from EMA and BRS and i think we are at STN.
sorry to "COPY AND PASTE" stuff, but as soon as I find anything interesting I just have to post it to see your points.
i might set this up as a diff. topic, but is it true that BA is rebranding COMAIR as BSAA - British South African Airways, i read it on the AirWise website, that, besides reinstating the Ndeble tails, COMAIR, is to be rebranded, with a fleet of 10 A319, and 7 A320s.
Anyone at COMAIR/BSAA back this up. I luv the Ndeble tails and would love to see 'em back in the skies.
And could anyone explain to me exactly who British Asia Airways is. I know they were set up for Taipei flights but I don't know much more.
Tarrah!
jordi
PS Only a 4-sector today!
STN-CPH
CPH-STN
STN-BIO (Bilbao)
BIO-STN
I was home by 18:00!

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BOAC
April 20, 2002, 01:03 PM
Euuwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mush
April 21, 2002, 08:58 AM
...work for GO???...No thanks...I would rather work for Burger King and get a better wage & uniform in the process.... images/icons/rolleyes.gif images/icons/tongue.gif

buzz146
April 21, 2002, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by mush:
...work for GO???...No thanks...I would rather work for Burger King and get a better wage & uniform in the process.... images/icons/rolleyes.gif images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana ">used to work at buzz. agree pay isn't always great, Go FAs get about £18,000 at buzz £15-17,000 a year.
now training at jmc, couple of ex-BA guys over here at jmc now.
and about the uniform, not a nice on at BK but GO's is pretty stlish for a LCC! seen it many times. like my jmc one, look forward to new BA uniform, ones at moment are U-G-L-Y!

Dragonwagon
April 21, 2002, 01:53 PM
That was pretty rude Mush! Well I think the only BA guys you would get at charter would be ex Gatwick shorthaul because when it was a subsidiary the pay and conditions weren't that great, and it was hard to transfer to longhaul. I would take those salaries with a very large pinch of salt, I don't know anyone at Buzz or Go earning anything like that amount, a thousand pound a month is about the limit. GO is very professional though, I don't like crew slagging off charter, very often their standards are higher than ours. Re the uniform, I don't think its THAT bad, depends very much on the body under it!!

go_fly
May 17, 2002, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by mush:
...work for GO???...No thanks...I would rather work for Burger King and get a better wage & uniform in the process.... images/icons/rolleyes.gif images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana ">mush, i'd like to inform you that all of our crews are not like jordi.
I was hurt that a fellow BA (I was at BA until JULY 2001, when I lst my job) coul be so horrible.
go crews have a nicer uniform than the current BA one and the pay is OK £17.5k pa for us senior crew.
So please have some respect.
Thank You
Go Fly

Wake_Vortex
July 15, 2002, 02:01 PM
Well-said, GoFly! It's horses for courses, so to speak - doesn't suit everyone, but how many carriers, (recent-contract BA included) would better £1400-1500 net for a roster with scarcely any nightstops, no commuting costs (and no Diners bill at the end of the month!) Seems to me all the comparisons we hear about twixt LC and BA etc are based on old contract salaries, which are undoubtedly superior - but no longer relevant. To my surprise, I now earn more at my new carrier than I did dispatching at BA after 5 years. Vive local bases!

euroboy
July 15, 2002, 07:53 PM
Sorry guys I`m closing this topic.
Its run its course lay dormant for the last few months till yesterday.
Think the subject matter has been well covered.

July 15, 2002, 11:17 PM
GOSH GIRLS ... RELAX ..... THAT IS NOT VERY NICE ALL THOSE HANDBAGS OUT.... AND FOR PULLING HAIR??? PLLLLLLLLLLLEAAAAAAAAASE DO BEHAVE GALS