AZ pilots on strike

[Mystere IV A]

Alitalia étant en discussions avec Volare pour la vente de 80% de sa filiale charter Eurofly, les pilotes de l’ANPAC appellent à une grève de 4 heures le 6 septembre.

Alitalia being in discussion with Volare for the selling of 80% of its charter subsidiary Eurofly, pilots of ANPAC call for a strike of 4 hours on Sep the 6th.

[blacksheep]

Well done

[Mystere IV A]

Originally posted by blacksheep:
Well done<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana ">Hi blacksheep,
May I ask what you qualify as well done ?
I'm afraid not to get what you mean .... images/icons/confused.gif images/icons/confused.gif

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[ 08-07-2002, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: mystere ]

[blacksheep]

I was talking about the strike. Volare has a policy of high turnover of personnel with very low pay, and very high hours with all that ensues. Very poor people management. It is an unemployment factory. Lots of people I know have not been rehired after years of temporary contracts because they were getting too senior.
And this is only the top of the iceberg.
I believe that AZ pilots are right on trying to defend their jobs and professionnalism.

[ 08-11-2002, 05:14 PM: Message edited by: blacksheep ]

[Mystere IV A]

Well let me not share your point of view.
I think personnally that Unions and staff representatives (unionized or not) should be involved in the process and negociate "status" or internal rules and regulations.
On another end I dont know what are Volare staff status. Are they AZ ? Are they Volare ?
This may drive a difference. If this strike comes after all steps and is a support to colleagues, why not ?
Striking is for me the last resort after all other ways have been tried.
Italy is such a well known country for striking , somehow like France ...
I am sorry to hear about the management policy they have there and I can understand your reaction, and that may be a reason for Volare people to act ... But why AZ ?

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[blacksheep]

Because Volare is taking AZ's flights! Their staff have less RIGHTS, so they cost less and steal work from AZ. Flights will be AZ but operated by Volare. Does it sound right to you?

[Mystere IV A]

Well I have to say that this is the way all is working now in the airline business.
If you have a look, a lot of AF flights are done by franchises or other kinda airlines ... paying their staff less too ...
What can we do against it ? Strike ? And loose or jobs cause our companies will act like AA or UA or any other US one actually firing people in order to keep head outa water ....
I dont appreciate that much this kinda acting but I feel helpless towards such situations and I dont think sincerely Unions are powerfull enough to change the way our world is ruled by money nowadays ...

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[blacksheep]

The fact that AF is doing that doesn't mean it's right (or wrong). And besides, AF is doing this only on routes who were profitable only if operated by small aircrafts, that AF doesn't own and is not interested in owning. What AZ plans to do is to give the flights to other companies to be operated with the same aircrafts it owns (767).
I don't share your point of view about the inevitability of what's going on. There are many exemples of things changing direction because someone just said no, or was enlightened enough to see an alternative. Like what happened about cost cutting in US companies: analists have said that because ONE of them (Continental) failed to follow, the whole trend will soon reverse. CO is the variable that changes the equation.
Italy is not the US, and I doubt that what happened there could ever happen for AZ. Unions are still powerful, employees are still a force. If they oppose to the move strongly enough, as they did before, they will succeed.

[Mystere IV A]

I don't really wanna argue on the kinda lines AF left, but some were not only done by small planes, and were profitable ...
What about CDG - French Antillas given to IW ? Moreover IW planes are often out of order and AF has to fill in ....
On another side wouldn't it be comparable to AF when they sold out SF ? Eurofly is the charter subsidiary of AZ if my memory's good, but unlike SF they are having their planes and staff ...
About the power of Italian Unions, as well as French ones, let me doubt about. I have been leaving there for years and I experienced the way they are working ... Not really what a Union aim is ...

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