Playing away

[crew_boyfriend]

Interesting one ! My girlfriend is long haul and I have found out recently that she kissed another one of her crew member when drunk when away a few weeks ago. AND she has been playing on the dating service on this site ! She is so so apolgetic and knows that she has caused bad bad damage in the relationship. Now in all of the people's experience here, when a girly has played once lkike this then is she going to do it all over again and again !?!?!>

comments please ladies and gentleman ! :confus_2:

[YYZFA]

Sorry to hear that crew. Well, every situations are different and it all depends on the way ppl are and act.

But of course, like any job, you have some ppl that will cheat around. It is not specific to F/A. :smile_2:
But we are all responsible of what we do.

I am not judging you or your g-friend, it is not my job to do that. What i can say, is listen to your inner voice and what it tells you inside. Ask yourself questions of what do you both expect from that relationship.

It is not easy to find people that are able to understand our job ( being away for a long time, work different skedules, shift, taking care of kids ...)

Respect between people is important ( but priorities depend on ppl again).
So think about what YOU want and what SHE wants then from there decide what is best for both of you. Sometimes it may be difficult to deal with some situations, but at least, we all desserve happiness in this world, no ?
Cheers

[traveler]

Yeah, I'd say : ask her !

[imdavidflyme]

Are you expecting her to read this? if you ask me, i think that this post is trying to get your own back on her.
but yeah, it's wrong and i would ask yourself a few questions.

[Paddles_up]

You know what they say, "When the cat's away the mice will play"!

If your relationship has plenty of trust, respect and mutual admiration you can survive this. I have to say this in her defense, curiosity is human nature. For example: I know for a fact that the guy I see "surfs around".

Does it bother me? NO! :shocked: If he finds someone better, maybe we weren't meant to be... and I wish him the best!
So, just relax and enjoy the ride!


If you love someone, let them go...without the ability to "let go" you will never know if you are meant to be together.

[WWF]

Oh for god sakes just ditch her.

[SwissJumbolino]

Hi crew_bf

Sorry to read this. It must quite painful.

For my part, I am absolutely unforgiving in love. So, with the little information I have from your post I guess I would leave her.

But of course, I don't know you, her, and all the details of your relationship (in a way, thanks God!!!).

Follow your instincts. It might be the best way to avoid regrets in the future. I sincerely hope you work it out without too much hurt.

[crew_boyfriend]

Thank you for all your comments.
This was not a way to get at her by doin this at all.
Trust, love and mutual respect.... all makes sense. Very hard to dump her as I am totally in love with her BUT I can imagine myself without her. She has just got back from a flight and it is a very weird situation. She is stayin with me before she flies again then I have no idea what will happen.
After a massive argument, she is very jumpy and scared of me after calling her a lying bitch. hhhmm that was fun !!! NOT ! I want to forgive her and i want her to forgive me for scaring her as she would never have told me ! I am just fillin people in on a bit more information.
Here is another question !!! a few months ago we both went on holidy/ I went to one place and she went to another as the 2 holidays had been booked months in advance before we met each other. She asked her ex boyfriend if he was ging to be in the same place as her and he tried to get a flight to see her !!! but could not due to various reasons.
and 1 ex boyfriend wanted to meet her in another place a few weeks later AND she was asking him when he would be there as well....
then !!!! just a few weeks ago... another guy was emailing her and she gave him her cellphone enumber and was mailing back to give him her rosta. he was saying that he could tell somebody he got in a day late so that he could see her. Now why would he say a whole day if he was not trying to spend the night with her ???
ok I have surfed on a few sites but never gave any real information about myself and it was a couple of times when she was away but never when she was with me as I had her with me !
I told her i had a profile on this web site as she wanted me to find another girl as she wanted to d oa 3some with me and another girl. she wanted to see me with another girl.... fantasy stuff like that...
anyway back to her web dating which she said she ws doing to get back at me. hmmm how would i find out if she was not using her real name on this site and i did not know about it at that time AND she is ver ysecretive about her email? she was emailing guys with me in the same room asking what bits intheir email meant and telling me that they were old friends.... i have found out that there were at least 2 guys she was mailing through the dating site !!!
if i was trying to get my own back on this girl then I woould be saying her airline and name and what her outes were but I am not. I am not aware she goes on this bulletin board at all.
All I am doing is trying to get a sanity check as am amazed that an dsometimes wonder if this all a dream.
ok I have written enough but I know what everybody means about just get rid of the whole relatinship BUT I also know what people mean when they say that this may all blow over and may actually work in the end. I think she wants to meake it work and so do I but I really do not trust her no matter what she says to me !!!
no questions in this response but more of a update than anythin to give people more information without making it tooo obvious so anyone guesses who I am talking about.

[bridget74]

but I really do not trust her no matter what she says to me !!!


crew_boyfriend, I think you've said it all right there. Without trust, what is there left to build your relationship upon?

It seems to me that your girlfriend likes to be desired, hence so many men who seem to be chasing her, and hence her staying in contact with them. From what you're telling me, there's a lot of red flags there. And she's doing web dating to get back at you? Sorry...that's twisted. If you start playing tit-for-tat in a relationship, it's doomed. I think you know what you need to do...you just need the confidence to do it. JMHO

[crew_boyfriend]

Thank you for your comments. It has been vey helpful and stopped me from going totally nuts !

So i know what I should d oand i am feeling that way inclined anyway. i remebr her threstenning to leave me a few thimes over the past while and I said i would never say it unless i meant it. I remeber we had an argument a fe wweeks ago and she thought I was goingto leave her and she aid somethin she has said so many times when she gets upset. And that ws that she wants to kill her self by jumping out of the window or by taking pills. I know that she would not.

Ther has been a lot of hurt and anger and so much emotion. She was lying to me still about stuff so i said i would cut her lying tongue out ! she was convinced I was going to kill her which is something i could never do to anything living ! Please do not start quoting crimes of passin stories !

Thank you for all words and stuff. She flies again in a few days and I think that rather a confrontation I will just leave it all and if she calls me or mails me then we take it from there....

I did love her very very deeply and somebody said here that the hardest part of loving is actually letting go.. I would agree that !

I will still be about and if nobody minds then even though I am not in the industry called aviation then will it be okay for me to post a comment in the boards once in a while?

There are some very good people and you have made me feel good about people in your industry as I have had two bad reltionships with air crew. And no I do not havea thing about air crew, it was just a coincidence.

Have a good day everybody.

[Paddles_up]

You know what they say...
"Bird of a feather flock together"

You are welcomed to "hang" with our ragged flock anytime! :grin: Just stay clear of the turbo prop! :wink_2:

[Studley]

....even though I am not in the industry called aviation then will it be okay for me to post a comment in the boards once in a while?



I'm not in the aviation industry, either....but I post here every once in awhile. :wink_2:

Welcome aboard, CB. Glad to have you with us here. Best wishes to you. :smile_2:

[crew_boyfriend]

Afternoon all....

WEll i do not think that this is a ragged flock in anyway at all!!!!

wow.. this had a lot of people looking at it. Guess it is an issue that a few people are worried or aware of.

just popped in to say hi.

[Paddles_up]

crew_boyfriend,

If it helps ya any...my guy is a longhaul freight dog. He has to spend many lonely hours in a hotel room for days on end when he is flying. Entertainment consists of, eating sleeping, hanging with his crew, surfing the internet when you are in a country/hotel that offer it. If your lucky, there's some porn on the tube. Often times, the only way we can comminicate is by email.
Anyways, what I am getting at is...put yourself in her shoes. When someone is "on the road", there isn't a whole lot to do sometimes. Be patient with her and support her in her career as much as you can.
Remember to get respect you have to HAVE respect!

[crew_boyfriend]

Thanks for that but there is a lot lot more!!! she plays with people and lies. I do know this as I saw loads of her emails with 2+ guys saying about she wants to do sexual things with thme tec etc. she didsay she wanted to restart he relationship then whilst we were talking on line emailed one of her guys and said that the only way to deal with me is to ignore me etc etc

this girl gives people in ur industry a bad name. i know what she is now and it is all leaving me head. a real shame though.

i know she has to have a backup guy all the time. all i did ws love the wrong person. she has lied to her friends in the airline about me, been setting up other things whilst telling me she wanted to get engaged. she told me the other day she did not want to be with any guy after this all happened between us and then mailed another guy about him being in bed with her and doing various sexual things and how she misses him thne emialed another guy saying that she is looking forward to seeing him in a few weeks and that she is ignoring me! she wrote the mail about ignoring me whilst talking to me on MSN!!!

i thought that when i started this post, she had just played away. now i know she has done far more than that. she has lied to me, her friends, work, other guys and the police as she ws taken away by the police after attacking me and then she started to accuse me of trying to kill her!!!

maybe flying at 39k effects some people in a very very bad way!!

i undersatnd people my get bored when they are away but that does not excuse mailing and calling at least 4 other guys on a regular basis in the last 2 weeks i knew her from my flat and computer!!!! she knew i was going to find these numbers on a bill and instead of being real, she took the way she felt was best for her and lied as she knew that I had found out about what she ws up to and like. i pity her next boyfriend!!!

i know not all people in the aviation industry are like her and it is nothing to do with the fatc she is air cew.. it is her and a conicidence that she is crew!!!!

well bettter get back on with my work !!! and as usual excuse any spelling mistakes!

crew bf even though I should rename myself crew ex-bf!!!!!

[Paddles_up]

maybe flying at 39k effects some people in a very very bad way!!



crew_(ex)boyfriend,
Sometimes I wonder this myself!

[crew_boyfriend]

Thanks for that ! u made me laugh !

I will laugh even more if my next girlfriend is air crew as well1!!! well they do say third time lucky !

(ex)crew bf

[YYZFA]

Can i be your new g-friend?
39 k already damage my brain and my only lovers are planes... planes... planes....
:wink_2:

take care

[Gypsy_Guy]

Dude...

You need to let go of her already! It's time to move on with your life. You are finding way too many things about your girlfriend that indicates that she is not worth hanging on to. Respect and give yourself what you deserve; better than her.

She needs a lot of growing up to do, but not on your expense.

Good luck.

[N727NK]

I recall a saying I heard in the final episode of M*A*S*H..

Cl. Potter to Klinger- "When you're in love, you've got nothing but trouble.. Only two things you can do.. Stop lovin'm, or love'm a whole lot more"

Replied by Klinger- "But if you love'm even more, won't that just get you a lot more trouble?"

Potter- "Yep. It's murder."



Chris

[crew_boyfriend]

Dude...

You need to let go of her already! It's time to move on with your life. You are finding way too many things about your girlfriend that indicates that she is not worth hanging on to. Respect and give yourself what you deserve; better than her.

She needs a lot of growing up to do, but not on your expense.

Good luck.



so true... thanks for that but jeez it can be hard to let go but with what I know now then it is easier and is being done !!!

[crew_boyfriend]

it gets even weirder!!!!

The ex girlfriend cabin crew called me the other day to tell me she is pregnant with my child even thought we have not had sex for 2 months.

I know she has had her period since then as she was at my flat when she had it !!!!

and there is more to tell but that has to wait for a few more days !!!! and i am not going to say who she flies for... just not saying in case anybody she knows reads this board!!!

sorry abouot this all but this has turned into a soap opera not just real life!!!!

ex crew-bf

[Paddles_up]

this has turned into a soap opera



PHEW! It's getting hot and juicy in here!
Stay tuned for the next episode of "The (ex) Crew_boyfirend!

<she turns up the tube and waits on the edge of her chair in aniticiaption.>

[crew_boyfriend]

Now when this is all over as it is getting close to the end of the soap now!!!

Shall we reveal the real names, routes and maybe airlines of the players????

might be interesting to find out of anybody else has come across this young woman as well !!!!!

comments please, ladies and gentlemen!!!

[imdavidflyme]

OOOH the suspense is killing me!
Do spill!
Why don't you make a script of the whole thing, turn it into a film, with you making an appearance in it, and then show it on a long haul flight that she is working on!
HeeHee.

[Dr. Loverboi]

Shall we reveal the real names, routes and maybe airlines of the players????



Gotta step in wearing the moderator hat (and nothing else but a smile! :grin:)....

Dude, I'm going to advise you not to do this. First, you're thinking of revealing information of not only a personal nature, but also of a sensitive nature, which affects her safety and security, and that of her airline.

We don't allow anyone to reveal suff like this anywhere else on this board, 'cause, like, it's just not cool, dude! :grin:

Second, ask yourself this question: Would you appreciate it if the roles were reversed and she were to want to do this to you?


and i am not going to say who she flies for... just not saying in case anybody she knows reads this board!!!



It sounds as if since yesterday, when you posted this, she has upset you about something BIG TIME to make you think about doing this now. But you shouldn't do it. Be true to yourself, dude! :smile_2:

I'm sorry that I have to drop the hammer on ya, dude, but I hope you understand why you will need to keep this information confidential.

Do keep us informed on how this is going, and remember that we're here to listen to your concerns. :smile_2:

Time to take the moderator hat off. Unless you ladies want me to, like, leave it on! :grin: :wink_2:

Dr. Randy Loverboi

[crew_boyfriend]

I appreciate the moderator comment and would not ever tell who she is or airline.... i was more curious as the comments people would say.

next week, i will tell the last part of this saga which is the most upsetting for her and the mess she has gotten herself into. I find it quite sad as well which is why i am still in contact with her.

I do still care for her and would not hurt her. When I have put the last part of this up which will have NO names or route information then you will see why.

She has not done anything in the past few hours at all. All of this last saga started a few days ago.

The comment about making it into a film crossed my mind!!! but having it on a flight she is on did not.. made me laugh!

I am not an evil malicious person and would not say the names. But I would not be surprised that other people have heard of her!!!! I stress i will not say the name!!!!

Thanks for the comments so far and I am really putting up these posts now not so more as my concerns but more to finish the story as it is quite unbeleivable! (bad typo!)

It owould be unfair to people who have heard it so far not to have the final conclusion. As they say every story has a twist... and just so Mr Loverboi knows as well as everybody else... the tables in this final chapter are not the sort of tables that could be turned!!!! ok i know that is crytpic!!!

have a good next few days all, safe flying and will be back next week.

ex crew bf

[YYZFA]

Dr loverboi take everything off... will be a nice show :grin: :grin: :grin:

And as Monsieur le Doctor well said it, dont post any personal info about the F.A even if you are upset with what is going on in your life. Sweet revenge is not the best way to end up that mess.
Life will give her the change back without you doing sthg against her. There is a "natural justice" in this world and dont waste your energy and time on anger or negative thoughts, trust me.

Anyway, in any company no matter if it is airline or others, things are known, dont worry. Gossips , junk and reality are known.

I would not worry for her, go on with your life and enjoy it. Some have a boring life and need to blame it on someone or the society, dont waste your time.

Both of you are adults and hopefully enough mature to pursue ur life in different roads if it has to be that way.
Cheers

[crew_boyfriend]

revenge is not on my mind.

I am making sure she is okay now after what she said to me the other day. i know she is very scarded with what has just happened to her ans she is quite alone at the end of the day and does not know who to trust for the network in her airline has worked out what she is like as well.

She and I talked last night, she told me about an argument she has had with the guy that I originally talked about who was the FA she works with she kissed when drunk which started this all at the beginning of the tale.

She wnted to make it clear to me that she was going to make him pay for a few things by reporting him to her base controller and to the main bosses as well.

Life has a way of doing the right thing whether it be chaos theory or some other things depending on what u believe in.

i am moving on and getting on with stuff. I ish I could tell u more about me and what I do and who I am but privacy for all on this site. I do not have a boring life.

i have a job that many people aspire to do in the way they aspire to do the job in the skies that u all do.

i am an adult and am doing the right thing here, i have talked to friend of mine who are more experienced in life than me and they have advised me as well but they can see and support my decisions and agree with them at this moment in time.

After the weekend u will maybe understand why!!!!

this next comment may make me sound bitter or angry but I am ana dult however she still does act like a child and has not grown up in so many ways.

I think and so does she that a lot of this stuff in her head which makes her like this is becuase of when she was sexually abused as a child. she has told me a lot of things to do with this which is why she did feel so safe with me whci hstill mazes me why she has gone off and done what she has done over the past 6 weeks.

she asked me for help and I could not refuse and i am helping her.

ther is no revenge, time always tells all and life does give u back the change! a favourite ssaying of mine is give people enough rope and they will hang themselves. if u give people the ability and opportunity to do what they wanna and to makybe fuck up then if they are capable of doing that then they will. not trying to trick anyone but her firends, family and other people have given her so much rope over the paast years that she has just got her self into such deep shit!!!!

I personally could not live with that and so am helping her for I am not a malicious evil person wanting revenge and do know how life balances out and does the right thing for all..

wooow... this got too long !!!!

i think it will probably be different roads from now on... mine will be on the ground and hers will be in the air however.. sorry that was lame!!!

I would help her and be with her and love her and all of that if she did the same but it gets to a point where u do not if u can ever trust someone again and she has done too much now against this all and what we once had.

This is a final closure for me, I hope, and what is happening soon may make her undersatnd that i always had her best interests at heart but there omces a point when u have to let go and to quite someone from this post before.... :"The hardest part of love is letting go".

When I have 100% moved on from this big mess, I will always look back and think it was sahme that this all went so sour but then life is ana amzing ride that i never ever wan to get off from !!!!

There will never be any personal info put up here!!!

well it is nearly the weekend..... and let's all have some fun !!!

ex crew bf

[crew_boyfriend]

THIS WILL BE A LONG POSTING!!!!

Not sure where we are inthe story now sothis may duplicate a bit of information!!! sorry....

-----------------------------------------

21st May
Sent her a text, she called me, It was like old times.
A few texts to her, just good stuff like if I had been closer then would have come down for lunch etc etc

Mailed her in the afternoon entitled, "One thing I did not answer" This said stuff about why "I still wanted to know her, all pleasant.. no grief.

We spoke later on and she said she had not read her mail so had not got any of mails. I had looked in her inbox just before this and she had read the mails, she had not opened the one entitled morning but had read the one I sent the night before as well as the one about unanswered questions.

Her inbox had been cleared up and she had put stuff in the trash.

She told me she had not opened or checked her mail.
There was also a mail from BLOKE 1 about it was good that she was thinking of him.

We spoke and she said how much she had enjoyed last night and it was good to have gone out etc etc, she called me from airside to say hi and then called me a last time to say bye bye and that she would check her mail from xxxx when she landed.

Why did she lie about her mail ?


22nd-25th May

One or two emails between us and a phone call.

I sent her a fax on her birthday as well as emailing her.

There had been many emails between her and her brother, mother and xxxxxx. Some which were quite obvious about care, missing and kissing etc etc.

26th May
Her Birthday. xx years old.

27th May
Email from her saying she was good and thanks for the fax and sorry for being late in her reply. It also said take care until Friday.

28th May (I think)
Emails from her and we had a quick mail conversation about meeting up on Friday when she got back. Nothing confirmed.

30th May
She lands from XXX.
No calls or emails.

I send her an email that Friday to say good bye and that after long conversations with people here in the xx, I know she needs help. I say that she should work out her life, get help for the mental problems bought on by the rape and other things. I say that she Paranoid Personality Disorder mixed with Sleep Trauma. This would explain a lot.

Reply back from her about 2 hours later which is odd as she should be in the xx and no have machine access at 10.30pm

The reply is very aggressive and more so than usual. I know that there is something wrong and that even though we can really annoy each other that there is more to this than meets the eye.

I check her mail and find out that she has emailed BLOKE 2 to tell him that she is pregnant with his child as she has only slept with him recently. She has done a pregnancy test and wants and needs an abortion.

I am shocked that she could be so stupid.
I decide to send her a message to say that "no matter what has happened between us, I will always help u, I know there is something wrong... call me and talk". I do not tell her that I know she is pregnant or anything.

I know that she would have problems getting an abortion in xxxx due to the laws and also that she is alone and he is in another continent, also if she went through the airline then it could be on her record and cause gossip and problems.

also if there was any possibility it was mine then I would want to make sure the right thing as done... either have the kid or really talk about an abortion. We had talked before if this happened and we had decided that it would be probably be an abortion. I knew she would not be able to mentally handle this alone and would not tell anybody at her airline as she was scared about who she could trust.


31st May 0830 xxx
She called me from xxxx! surprised as she should have been in the xxxx !
She told me the baby was mine even though she had emailed BLOKE 2 the night before to say the same thing.

We spoke for a while. I was surpassed she called me to say it was mine but I thought that she was doing it because she was scared. She did sound quite matter of fact and a little angry as I guess it was a hard thing for her to do to call me after all that happened as well as to lie telling me the baby was mine.

We spoke about abortion and I said that I would help. Called a friend of mine and checked the web, called an abortion clinic and found out information.

EX GF and I spoke about an hour later.

I arranged the appointment for her in the xxx due to the abortion problems in xxxx.


She emailed the other guy later to tell him she had got an appointment arranged in the xxx and that it would cost £420. She had already asked me to pay half as well.


1st June to 5th June

Numerous phone calls between EX GF and I as well as faxes and email and text.

She was calling me scared and asking for help as well as saying that I was a star and that she wanted all the pain and hurt to stop between us all.

Then she called me at one point to say she had been blood spotting and that it was not good and hurt a lot. I told her to go to a doctor a soon as possible as I was not near her to do this.

Our phone calls ranged from her saying she thought it was a little boy as she knew I wanted a boy, keeping the baby, then us getting together and the baby could bring us back together, that I was not allowed to go near any girls until it was over (abortion), that she knew there was another girl there (which there was not), that she was scared alone, missed me, and a few other things to make sure I felt for her.

She even said at one stage that she wanted to keep the baby.

I also told her a truth that I was going to propose to her on her xxth Birthday, I had decided to do that weeks ago, before I found out about all of this. Her birthday was when she away training with her airline which is why I was sad she was away then but only 3 weeks before her training I found out that she had been playing.

All of this time, she had been emailing the other guy about when things were happening and money. She said for him to call her in xxxx after the abortion. she told him that a friend would be with her and that they would be looking after her. That friend was me!

His responses ranged from caring for her, saying he could not be there due to his flight schedule, that it is so bad we have to go through this, I will not turn my back on you, where to send the money, that he would call her, also that he knew she would not cause him any trouble (he obviously does not know her that well) to this absolute classic comment from him!!!

"you can understand my situation here, so i have to keep things quiet for now.".

Now what do you make of that !!!!!

I also went into the supermarket to get her some wine gums, a soft toy, a magazine she likes. I also wrote in card entitled "Thinking of you".


5th June
Her arrival back from her last flight at a certain airport.

we went out for dinner. talk of what would happen if we kept the baby, she would move from over to the zzz and the families would all get together and work it all out.

She bought me back Smirnoff Black and Marlboro from her flight.

A calm chilled night, she kissed my neck, we hugged and I told her that I would never want to abort my baby.

All is cool. I am making sure she thinks I do not know at all about anything. She is still asking for the money for the abortion as well.

I drop her of at the hotel and call her when I get home.


6th June
To put into in a nutshell.
I pick her up and take her to the clinic.
I can't go in. she pays. she call me upset as I have not gone in as I am parking. she said she would go in and for me to meet her in there. If it were mine then I would have gone in.

She does not have the abortion because she has not drunk enough water for the ultrasound.

She is booked in at another clinic the next day at 1615 hrs.

We ho back to the hotel, a small argument on the way back. a big one actually!! because I am reading the paperwork in the car driving down the motorway at 90mph.

then she has a go about money as well and that she does not think I will ever give her half of the money as it is half my problem!

she has a go at me because she thinks I do not believe her about dates etc etc and then has a go at my driving. I just keep it together.

We go out that night. she is so tired I take her back home after an hour. I drop her off and she wants onion rings from BK.

I go and she thinks I am off home but I go to BK and get her onion rings.

Go back the hotel and take then to her... she is happy and smiles and kisses me again. nothing sexually.

She wants to sleep with me in my bed together at my flat but I can't do that and say that if things were different then she would be there. It is not possible for all the reasons I know about !

I go home and call her as she wanted to know I got home safe.


7th June
She calls me in the AM to see when I am picking her up to have small lunch s I suggested yesterday.

The abortion is at 1615.

I will tell her afterwards when I take her back to her hotel that I knew she had slept with another guy and tha she thought it was his!!!

there we are..... I am sure I will put up another post so that you all know her reaction after I tell her that I knew about this other guy. I could not let her go through and do this on her own for so many reasons....maybe I was fool to help her when I knew it was not mine. Maybe I was worried about her... it has gone on too long now!

that's all... be back soon....

ex crew bf

[imdavidflyme]

JESUS CHRIST!
OK, so has she had the abortion or not?
And are you sure it's not your kid??
David

[Reba Rae Redneck]

Okay here, crew_boyfriend...allow me ta give ya a little advice from my exaulted place here upon my Barcalounger in my doublewide!

Yer girlfriend is playing ya fer an idiot!

Oh, she's prego, huh? Have ya seen that little ultrasound thingie yet? Did she do one of those little prego pee tests fer ya?

Because if not, I'd be willin' to bet she ain't prego. Oldest woman's trick in the book, buddy...tell him yer preggers, get the money fer an abortion, and then buy yerself a coupla new outfits with it. Ultimate way to get even with a guy who dumped ya.

And even if she is knocked up, she don't know if it's yers? What tha...? :confus_2:

How many people has she told it's their rugrat, anyway? I'd make damn sure I knew if it were mine or not before I go gettin' into a relationship with somebody like that! How many times has she cheated on ya, now?

Listen here, sugar...if it ain't your rugrat, thank the heavens and run like hell the otha way! It sounds like this chick is a bonified nutcase! You sound like you've listed some of her noggin' problems already...but while yer at it, may I suggest ya get checked by a doc for one of your own: CODEPENDENCY!

Stop tryin' to play Superman with this chick if the baby ain't yers. Ya ain't her savior, and tha more ya play that role, the more she'll take advantage of ya. She's playing ya like a cheap banjo.

Get out now while tha gettin's good. :cool_2: Trust your redneck mama on this one, okay?

[Dr._Playmate]

<font color="purple">Crew-boyfriend, listen to Reba! That gal is always bang on! Literally!

The buck stops here buddy! Pack your things and run! Far!
To the ass-end of space, my friend! And don't look back!

Oh, and why are you checking HER private mail?
This is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black!

Dr. Penelope Playmate

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[Dr. Loverboi]

Dude! You really have some major-league drama going on here. I have a few things for you to remember:

Rule #1: ALWAYS listen to advice given by a woman on a Barcalounger, who knows how to use it. :grin: :wink_2:

Rule #2: Make the break and don't look back.

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[YYZFA]

Agree doc Loverboi. :smile_2: dont look back and take a new way!

My favourite sentence is :

"Hasta la vista baby!"

Cheers

[Sugarpuffs]

I agree with Dr. Loverboi too, on this one.

BTW Crewboyfriend if, as you seem to imply you are in England, do not read somebody elses private e-mail 'cos it's like taking and reading somebody elses letter sent through the Royal Mail without permission. :mad_2:

Think on dear fellow and take the Dr's. advice.

[crew_boyfriend]

okay !!! i edited the post as I put too much information in there to do with locations etc !!!!
Royal Mail... yep I know it is wrong to read mail but things were very weird indeed and if I had not read the mail in the first place then iwould not have known about her doing what she did in the very first post.

there is more now..... I told her over the weekend that i knew she had slept with this other guy and we talked and talked and talked. I saw the papeerwork about the bloodwork and she was 8 weeks gone. I know her and when she is telling the truth and lying.

I had a feeling it was to do with me.. about 5%... and now i know she was not playing around a few aweeks ago at all. I think it was my child. I hate abortion and wish this had not all happened. Of course, there would be doubt until the child was born but the abortion did happen over the weekend.

She told me why things happened with hinm and how she feels. i know when she is lying. she has not asked me to pay for the abortion at all. it is not a financial thing., she does not want me thinking that shewants my money now.

we have not stopped talking since it happened., ther have been crossed words aswell but things seem to be going in a positive way.

she has to go back to the clinic soon and i will be going with her as i do still care for her welfare. i still have emotions for me and she has for me. this has been a torrid affair.

ther is no reason for her to lie to me anymore and there is nothing that i amn doing in a financial way so it is not that, we could not have had the child with all the pain and grief that had happened anyway.

i know all are saying run the other way and i know why and it makes sense.

i have no idea what is happening now but since the abortion and me telling her i know, it seems as if a lot of crap has been cleared out of the way. I KNOW she was not physically cheating on me. She slept with this guy after the second big fight we had when we were over. It was also after she called me from XXXX to say about coming back to me and getting engaged. I said NO to this and she and her hormones reacted badly and so instead of doing the crying upset only thing she reacted in the way she reacted to stuff like this before she met me and slept with an ex boyfriend who I thought had a girlfriend and she told me that he has as well.

She got angry at him becuase he was so calm and relaxed about her being pregnant and she did not get the reaction of worry she wanted from him.

in a few hours, she flies out for over a week to do a 4 stage trip. we are talking a lot and have not stopped being in contact since last week and since Saturdy night with total honesty between us. or it seems that way.

Hasta La Vistababy would be a good idea and maybe that codependecny thing might be partially true but i have not met anybody that I have had such strong emotions as i have for her for about 10 years. A major reltinship ended about 5 years ago for me and even though I have relationships since this one has bee nthe only one with a real connection.....

mayber her and i need matching straight jackets?????

The saga is continuing, and ur all probably thinking we are both totally mad and I am merely airing dirty laundry in public. i do not think iwas expecting the reaction from her to be this way after i told her. I know from the inside of me and do not need 100% medical proof that the child was mine and that she does have these very strong emotions for me in the way i have for her as well.

She wanted to keep the child and she told me afterwards that she wanted to keep the child to prove to me that it really was mine and for us to actually get back 100% properly.

I know she has issues but there is a limit and I know when she is doing her lying. she was not. that was the raw emotion, the real deal.

okay.. i better stop there before people start ordering me Prozac!!!!!

and still the ex crew bf...

[traveler]

PPfffffffffewww, I go away for a week.
Didn’t expect to read all of this.

It’s nice to read that you are remaining a friend to her.
You feel she’s a little screwed up but you walk with her and hold her hand every now and then.
That’s nice.
Admirable.
Are you sure you’re not secretly hoping for more ?
Make sure you remember your own well being.
All this can be emotionally exhausting.
Been there.
Take care.
And remember, she’ll always have someone around.
That’s just how she is.

[crew_boyfriend]

Traveler... very very wise words and very calmly said. no disresepct to anybody else.

I take ur comments on board and u have made me think very much. Please read and maybe reply to the PM.

thanks to all as always.

ex crew bf

[crew_boyfriend]

Can a moderator delete the post for me as things have now come full circle and we are back together after all this grief and worry!!!

we're both in love with each other tooo much hence why the hurt and crap and it was my kid as well.. that I am sure of.

crew bf

[Dr. Loverboi]

Hey crew_boyfriend dude,

I can't delete the thread, 'cause it's, like, been open for a long time. However, I will close the thread, ending this discussion.

Best wishes and good luck to you in your relationship. My advice to both of you is to make use of any lessons you have learned with this experience, so you don't repeat the things that prompted you to post here in the first place.

Hang ten, dude! :grin:

DISCLAIMER: Viewpoints and advice given herein should be taken as friendly advice, of mainly humorous value, and should not be necessarily understood as professional guidance. Always seek the guidance of a licensed professional (because, like, they get paid for it, dude!). For best results, do not dry clean. All Rights Reserved. E. Pluribus Unum.