September 11, 2003, 10:06 AM
I think of flying for LH and I wonder if it is possible to fly long haul from FRA only.The second thing is that I don't wanna move from my city(regional apt with 2 connections to FRA daily)and I am thinking of commuting to FRA for my "working flights" only.
1. How many ID tickets can I get a year/month and what are the fares for LH employees?
2. Can I make any requests for particular flights/routes?
3. Is there any minimum flights numer I have to make a month?
4. Is there any possibility of marriages flying always together on the same flights?
Anybody, please answer.
Lotnik :plane: :plane:
September 11, 2003, 10:52 AM
As far as I know u could be either based FRA or based MUC
September 11, 2003, 11:45 AM
There is a scheme on which you fly long-haul only right from the start (available in MUC and FRA), but it's a seasonal contract of 6 months, renewable but you don't get certain privileges such as seniority. It's a fun thing to do for half a year or a year or so, or occasionally (like, if you're a student wanting to fly during your vacations and then go back to uni full-time for the rest of the year), but not really a long-term perspective
If you start regularly at FRA or MUC, you'll be flying a mixed roster of short- and longhaul. many FRA-based people find it possible to commute with that, but it can be stressful (and expensive) and you will need a crashpad in Frankfurt and be prepared to spend considerable time there (e.g. when you have two daytrips with just one free day in between etc.). You can then switch to long-haul after a period of time around 2-3 years (depending on current demand).
ID tickets are available only on completion of your first half year, so you will need to pay full-fare, find an alternative transport mode (trains?) or move to FRA temporarily for the first half year. After that, there is no limit, however at 10% of the standard full fare plus tax, they don't come as cheap as one might expect (a domestic German destination will set you back about EUR 50 return, if I'm not mistaken).
You can make one request for off-days and one request for a destination or partner each month. Off-days are granted most of the time, unless specifically popular days such as Christmas; whether you get a destination request depends on your seniority and the popularity of the destination. Other than that, you can also swap patterns if you find a willing partner and your hours/rest periods etc. are compatible.
There is no minimum number of flights, but your flight hours will normally be over 65 and under (I think) 84. Anything over 70 is paid as overtime. Usually rosters are between 70 and 80 hours. How many flights this works out depends entirely on what sort of patterns and flights you get. If you fly a lot of hour-strong longhaul patterns, you might manage on as little 4 patterns a month, but if you get a lot of short and one-day trips, the number can go up infinitely. 10 days off at home base are guaranteed, 12-14 are quite normal.
Flying always together is impossible, as there are thousands of crew at Frankfurt that get continually mixed up for rosters, and you have only one request per month. However, with requests and swaps, you can try to get a few flights together.
I hope this is helpful!
September 12, 2003, 06:14 PM
I couldn't imagine a better explanation, only that, right now, you need much more patience to get into the intercontinental groups. The last change was in Februar and March this year and the last course that got in, flew by then already 4 years. In the future, if the expanding stays this slow, in case we are, it will take much longer, since the demand right now is very very low.
You can then switch to long-haul after a period of time around 2-3 years (depending on current demand).
September 14, 2003, 02:17 AM
Actually I waited almost 4 years to get in there! :shocked:
September 14, 2003, 08:02 AM
Ah okay, sorry.... this girl is losing touch with latest facts.... Time I got back I guess!